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Re: [linrad] RE: Linrad and Fedora Core 3



Hello, Again, Leif!

When I run svga start I get the module loaded, but I get the error:

Loading svgalib_helpermake: *** No rule to make target `device'.  Stop.

I put your Makefile.ext in the indicated library [ .........svgalib_helper], with and without the .ext extension, and it didn't help.

Should another Makefile go here?
If so, what is the Makefile.ext for?

And after running this I still get the same error when I try to run svgalib after rebooting:

svgalib: Cannot open /dev/svga
Is svgalib_helper module loaded?

But this is still way further than I got with Mandrake or Debian or Ubuntu/Debian.

If you have solved this problem, Leif, I am very interested!!

Sorry for the stupid questions...

Keep me posted, and

73,

ROger
W3SZ


> Hi Roger,
> 
> > Unfortunately, I still have the problem after rebooting.
> > 
> OK. I know now it is because the /dev/svga files are missing.
> 
> The solution I adapted was to run the svga file.
> 
> I put copies and links as in Makefile.ext which might
> be part of the next Linrad version. (Unless Matan 
> releases a new version that makes it superfluous)
> 
> Afterwords I got the following from Matan:
> 
> > I use FC3, and don't have this problem. FC3 uses udev, which creates 
> > the devices automatically when the modules is inserted. 
> > Do you run modprobe svgalib_helper, or trust kmod to load the module? 
> > udev does not support this method, since the devices are not there 
> > before the module is loaded.
> >
> > Anyway, since udev creates the /dev/ directory every boot, if you want a 
> > permanent device that udev does not create for some reason, run
> > 
> > cp -a /dev/svga* /etc/udev/devices
> >
> > Since udev (or fedora startup scripts) copy devices from there to /dev 
> > on boot.
> 
> Maybe using modprobe rather than insmod makes something automatically?
> 
> I tried svgalib-1.9.19 on several old distributions and it does not
> work. I have sent error messages to Matan, maybe he can fix it easily.
> I think it is valuable to keep backwards compatibility and make
> Linrad easy to use on elderly computers. None of the modern distributions
> runs directly on my old Pentium although it is fully adequate for 
> Linrad with 5 kHz bandwidth. Maybe if I recompile the kernels for it
> on another computer.....
> 
> The old svgalib-1.4.3 can still be used (of course) but its VESA driver
> is so hopelessly slow.
> 
> Roger, I guess you are no longer interested in Fedora Core 3 judging 
> all the posts on the list about other alternatives, but I try to ensure
> Linrad will work under any distribution.......
> 
> 73
> 
>   Leif / SM5BSZ
> 
> 

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